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Well, I'm sold.

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Started 3 months ago by guyvestal
Latest reply from flyboy

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Pastor Guy Vestal
Member

Installed it today, and since the first minute of use, it has shown itself to blow away anything I have yet to work with. Thanx.

Posted 3 months ago #
sambeckett
Member

How can anyone be sold on a product, that we don't know how much it costs? It has very nice live interface, but that is about it. Google Annalytics reports are much more powerful and more importantly free. This could end up costing 10$ per million page views ( wild guess ). At that rate this service could become very expensive for large sites.

Sure this is great for small sites, but I don't think they plan on making money from such sites. Its going to be bate and catch business model. Right now I not test the site for more then 20 minutes per day due to the pageview limitations.

So for me, the cost of this service is a make or break. They should be announced and the limitations should be removed. Otherwise praising such a service is premature.

Posted 3 months ago #
John P.
Chief Cat Herder

I believe it's a matter of priority as to how Woopra compares to Google Analytics.

If you are OK with Google compiling all of your statistics into a huge database along with everyone else in the universe because a zero cost service is the most important thing, you will not likely be pleased with Woopra's pricing model when we release it.

However, if you are willing to pay a little in order to truly understand the individual behaviors of your specific visitors (by individual user login), to be able to communicate and interact with them, to keep your information private and firewalled from others, and to do all of this in real time, then Woopra may be right for you.

Since we launched the beta we've been 100% clear that Woopra was never intended to be free for all users. We want it to be as low cost as possible, but frankly there is no reason that a heavily trafficed site shouldn't be able to contribute a little to help offset the infrastructure and manpower required to provide the most useful stats out there. Sites with heavy traffic usually have ads, or are of a commercial nature. So a small fee shouldn't be an issue.

As far as Google's reports being more powerful, I completely disagree. Google can't even tell me WHO visited my site. And they can't do it in real time. Having said that, if there are any particular views of the statistical data that you want to see we can easily add them to Woopra, because we're collecting the data anyway. Just drop a note on the feature request board and we'll get it baked in.

Finally, I'm not sure what type of problem you are experiencing, but when I take a look at the back end it appears that you are able to get hours and hours of data on your higher traffic sites and all of the traffic on the others within the 10k limit. If you are having problems with this please drop us a line via the Contact form, or post a bug on the other forum so we can get you sorted out.

Thanks,

John

Posted 3 months ago #
sambeckett
Member

Thanks you for your response. I am not having any real technical issues, just hitting the page view limit. The service is great and I would love to use it, but probably could not afford ( with unknown pricing ).

I would also say there is value in having "statistics into a huge database along with everyone else" for example Google's new bench marking feature which compares you to similar size sites in your site's category.

As for WHO, I'm not sure if woopra provides any more detail then Google does. You can get pretty specific in Google when funneling down. However I would have to test side by site to see what the real differances are.

When testing woopra users scrolled so fast, it was difficult to track a specific persons actions. A new feature might be, to add a variable to the javascript that would dynamically load in the user's username. I would be able to create the javascript dynamically in php. The usernames would should up as the user during the live reports, instead of user01xxx. This would allow sites with hundred of thousand users really be able to track each members activity. Putting a real name to each face. non-members would still up as the current way, user01xxx.

Sorry if I am so critical. I see almost 100% positive, and I am just pointing out I think a major hurtle for your business exists. It is hard to compete with free. And for the sites that are big and will make you money, most of the time they have there own click stream and detailed reporting already in place.

Posted 3 months ago #
skidvis
Member

The woopra API already let's you create your own variables.
All you gotta do is create an array (via PHP), like this:

<script type="text/javascript">
var woopra_id = 'xxxxx';
var woopra_array = new Array();
woopra_array['userid'] = 'joe';
woopra_array['age'] = '32';
</script>
<script src="http://static.woopra.com/js/woopra.js"></script>

Posted 3 months ago #
sambeckett
Member

wow, super! guess I didn't read the API. That is great news, will 'joe' now show up instead of user01xxx in the live stats?

Posted 3 months ago #
Jad Y.
Administrator

Javascript variable woopra_array is deprecated. Expect a js documentation soon. Meanwhile, you can use the following notation:

woopra_id = 'xxxxxx';
var woopra_visitor = new Array();

woopra_visitor['name'] = 'jad';
woopra_visitor['Email'] = 'myemail@woopra.com';
woopra_visitor['avatar'] = 'http://mywebsite.com/avatar.png';

</script>
<script src="http://static.woopra.com/js/woopra.js"></script>

Posted 3 months ago #
sambeckett
Member

thanks Jad. That feature is really cool, impressive for 20 minutes.

Can't wait to become one of the Enterprise testers so I see a weeks worth of data.

Posted 3 months ago #
flyboy
Member

John:

Thank you for stating what you did. I for one will pay to have my data kept secret. Your business model is PERFECT!

Posted 1 month ago #